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Welcome to the Alp Club!

Wed Sep 16, 2009, 10:48 PM
Greetings all!

If you hadn't guessed, this is a club for fans of the supernatural creature the alp.

For those of you not familiar with the alp, you can find a plethora of info here~!

In a nutshell, it's a German nightmare creature with vampiric and incubus tendencies who wears a magic hat that allows it to transform.


:bulletred: JOINING!
Everyone is welcome to join, but PLEASE send us a NOTE if you want to be added to the list of members below!

Remember - if you want to help us spread the word about AlpTarnkappe, please put a link to us in your journal/sig!
:dev alptarnkappe: or :icon alptarnkappe: (without the spaces)

:bulletred: Policies:
Keep submissions at least PG13, I know that some of the elements of the alp can be a little suggestive in nature, but please try and not make the images too sexual. Avoid nudity where we can and NO overly sexual stuff. Sexy is okay, but not sexual. Violence and gore is welcome within reason, let's not get too carried away though since I want this to be a good reference point for people who don't understand the alp.


:bulletred: Depictions:
We are open to all interpretations as long as they are accurate, meaning that they have their Tarnkappe.
This is what separates the alp from being a vampire or incubus knock-off.

That said, you may make your alp look like anything you please. If you want your alp to be a tall sexy vampire boy, go ahead...at least make sure he's wearing a hat though. Short, hideous little gremlin alps are extremely welcome too! Just remember that all depictions are welcome and we do not expect everyone to draw the same exact thing, that is what is going to be the fun part after all! Seeing what everyone comes up with! And it doesn't need to be specifically a regular boring hat, per se, it ought to be any hat you please. Hoods, veils, helmets, bandannas, visors, large hair clips with bows feathers and flowers, crowns and tiaras...the list of things that go on the head goes on and creativity is encouraged! Let's make them as unique as possible, while sticking to the accuracy of the creature. "some sort of head covering" leaves a vague opening for you to do what you please with the hats!

:bulletred: Submissions:
To have your piece displayed in the gallery, send us a NOTE with a link to the piece. We will post a smaller version with a link to the fullsize one in your gallery and proper credits. There is no limit to the number of alp pieces you can send in, but we'd appreciate it if there are always alps -in- the piece, if not the main focus.

:bulletred: Favoriting:
Please DO NOT favourite pieces in the gallery unless it states in the artist's comments that the image can ONLY be found here.

:bulletred: Tags:
To help people find alps in the huge world of deviantART, please include in the tags 'Alp', 'Demon', 'Vampire', or 'Nightmare' (combinations thereof help narrow down the search to things that are more appropriate... We know alps aren't really "vampires" in that sense but people looking for them will think so.)

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If anyone wants to make link buttons, please do. I'll try and get some done as well.

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  • Current Residence: Germany & Austria's mountainous regions
  • Interests: Wearing hats, giving nightmares, tormenting sleepers, shapeshifting and pressing
  • Favourite movie: Nightmare on Elm Street?
  • Favourite artist: Henry Fuseli
  • Favourite style of art: Art depicting Alps accurately!
  • Favourite game: Twisting hair into elf-knots
  • Tools of the Trade: A fine magical hat

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:iconamixia:
I love your avatar. 8D We must all wear more hats~

Hmm.. It says something more at the beginning but.... *can't quite make it out*

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:iconalptarnkappe:
It says "Alptarnkappe. Nightmares. Wear hats."

And yes we must all strive to wear more hats.

Alptarnkappe Team~
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:icontrala:
huh. i would've joined, but my alp hasn't got a hat, because the myths i read had nothing about the tarnkappe being so essential, so i didn't include it, because my alp was a bit more modern than the traditional 'black magic' sort. i'm not talking sparkle vampires, but i've looked more at the mythology that is a bit less magic-y. :I

in fact, it seems quite a lot of stories mentioned nothing about the tarnkappe at all.

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:iconalptarnkappe:
There's stories about alps somewhere? Oo! I'm interested! Where might I find some? All this stuff is based on what I've found while scouring through every book on vampire/supernatural mythology I could find,as well as a few on Teutonic mythology and some sites in German that I had to translate. Not all of them mentioned the hat being called a "tarnkappe" (typically, when I find an entry on the alp it is an abridged version taken almost verbatim from Bunson's "Vampire Encyclopedia", which does mention the hat in the book, whereas most omit this fact for brevity). To be fair, a lot of creatures that were alp-like are sort of shuffled into the same category, and that includes beings that didn't wear hats (or if they did, it was more for disguising the face than possessing any magical purposes) so the mythology can be pretty hard to figure out when it seems so contradictory. Particularly when the alp is likened to the incubus, which wears no hat, I think that most may assume they are the same entity.
Of course I make no claims to be the authority on alp mythology, but I've been at it for 7 years so I've seen a lot, though obviously not any alp-related fiction!
Thanks for sharing your view on it though, I would very much like to welcome another alp fan to the club ^_^
:icontrala:
My basis came from original story an old family friend told me, that her great grandmother had told her, one about a naughty young girl who was tormented by a sly, crafty alp - but no one believed her, sort of like 'the boy who cried wolf'. (my friend was a german actually, and the myth seems to have lived on quite some time!)

The alp was basically the embodiment of a nightmare, and an explanation for 'sleep paralysis' and crib death. The alp to her was not really a vampire at all, more an imp / elf like figure that would torment people in their sleep and drive livestock mad during the night for shits and giggles.

Further research, mostly on the internet and in various books on generic vampire history, seemed to point towards not really an incubus but a sleep demon that later on in the mythology morphed into the more comical vampire like deity.

The first time i've ever heard the cap mentioned as essential and not just 'alps were sometimes depicted as wearing hats' was actually your descriptions, and it really threw me off, because the accounts I had read mostly mentioned the hat as something they were unusually attached to, and although it was a source of power losing the hat did not render them useless.

I'm also thinking the Alps I have researched are also the sort known as 'Mares/Maras', which was where the Alp myth seems to have branched from. Plus, as I said, the mythos in which my character exists is more modernised, and I selfishly didn't particularly like the old black magic and religious sort of ideas attached to the hat as a source of power. Dorian, my oc, is less an incubus and more a nightmare demon with a twist of vampire, able to waltz through the dreams of humans and change them to his sadistic pleasure, enjoying the suffering it brings.

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:iconalptarnkappe:
Hehe, I admit I had to take a bit of a breather before I tackle this one, forgive me for taking a while to respond!

For starters, well I admit I can't argue with an old family story!
I'm not sure, but I kinda get the impression by your reaction to the hats that you might think I've overstated something. 'tis fair if as you've said, most resources you've found understated it, which is a claim I can indeed support, but that's because of 2 factors: The alp is still obscure outside its country of origin and most resources have picked up from where others left off, omitting things from time to time as they do. On the internet, like I mentioned, most info on the alp is taken almost verbatim from Matt Bunson's Vampire Encylopedia. However, his 3 paragraph description is often abridged to only describe the alp as a German vampire-like entity, and leaves out both the hat and the evil eye. So it may be true that not many sources mention the hat or its importance, but being often omitted in favor of succinctness does not mean it's not a part of the mythos. Most often a resource will say what the alp does, and leave it at that, with little to no description of how the alp appears.
Many sources that did not originate from Bunson's entry may only describe the alp as a white butterfly that comes out of a witch's (or a murrae's, or a human who is being cursed) eyebrows, and I'm fairly certain from your description that this is not the alp that you're familiar with. The white butterfly mixes together with the alp's description in nearly all accounts that describe it wearing a hat, however.
If it does not mention it's shape-shifting abilities, chances are they don't mention the hat, either. Again, being omitted does not necessarily mean it's not part of it.

Mares and Maras are often times beautiful but malevolent women (but more often hags) that victimize sleeping people in a similar manner to the alp, but that is not necessarily the alp's origin. Alps are descended from elves/dwarves that lived in the mountains, and many key elements of the alp are derived from the story of Albrich, a dwarf king who had a magic 'tarnhelm". As far as the alp itself goes, alps were once friendly beings but slowly became evil and mischievous when they left the mountains.
Alp alternately can mean "elf" or "shining white one" (in reference to the white butterfly no doubt, or the white mist it becomes. Others contend it is the alp's complexion)
The alp's tarnkappe, and even its name (as sometimes it is called an "alb") are said to be remnants of this legend of Sigfried and Albriech the dwarf. Eventually the alp coalesced with the legends of maras and similar beings (truds, doggis,walrider schrat, and the habergeis which is a demonic bird/owl which gives us the alp's ability to fly) and formed what we know today as the "alp." The alp as we know it today in fact is widely regarded as a goblin, demon or an evil spirit rather than by its elfin roots.

Similar beings, like the shrattl/shratteli are like the alp but sound a little closer to your description. The shrattl particularly enjoys driving people insane with its nightmares, is a far more malevolent creature itself, taking great pleasure in tormenting livestock and people.

Where the alp gets it's "vampire" connection is the tendency to either taste blood from nipples or to enter the body as mist and absorb it that way. However this is not common as it's modus vivendi is to "ride" and cause nightmares.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you did not like certain elements of the alp, why not make an original species? In my experience, people are apt to praise you for the originality instead of gripe about the accuracy of the mythology ^_^
He sounds like an interesting character but I think that by the very virtue of not drawing him as either an elf-like or goblin-like creature (or in some cases, a hairy little old man, for example [link] was someone's interpretation drawn before this club account went up) it's already significantly different from the alp mythology most of us are familiar with, the lack of the hat just further distances it. And I suppose I have difficulty understanding why you'd choose the alp considering how you do not like the black magic elements, because you'd have to do away with a lot more established mythos than the tarnkappe since black magic permeates the alp's very existence, from its tendency to be a summon to its "evil eye" (I suspect this is not a part of your OC as well, but I may be wrong!)

That's not to say that you don't have the right to do as you see fit with your own character, or that it is unfair to mold something in your own creative vision, but typically when people "modernize" a subject it is one that is well known and established, cliche and tired, and they're adding a new "spin" on it. If you're picking a creature that's already obscure and making drastic changes to it, you might as well make up something new since it defeats the purpose of being contrary to the built up expectations one might have established in regards to the mythology. Like for example, a zebra unicorn, or a gryphon that is part owl/part leopard instead of a eagle-lion.
These deconstruct expectations while keeping a semblance of familiarity that people use a reference, because they are well-known creatures.

Please please do not take this as me being catty or a know-it-all,(hehe 'cuz I don't!) but I have a rather large following of German readers for my comic that have helped correct my improper grammar whenever my alp character speaks in Deutsche, I don't think they'd be afraid to tell me I'm bungling the character's mythology (in fact they've been tremendously helpful finding information for me!)and they have often supported much of how I represented the creature for the past 5 years I've had my comic online. This doesn't give me the authority to tell others what to do however, I'm just saying that many people that have expectations of the creature may have only been aware of it thanks to my comic, which until only recently was the only webcomic with an Alp character in it, and this is why I made sure I did my best and most thorough research on the creature before committing it to paper. I'm not completely innocent of a little reinterpretation myself, but for the most part I've remained loyal to the mythology.
However this club was not started to have a bunch of people draw the alp exactly as I see it, but to take a look at the information and form their own vision of it. I made sure to encourage people not to draw alps like i do, but how they think they might look! I may like how I represent the creature, but I've seen some fantastic designs come from this club as well that sometime I wish I'd thought of.
That alp is one confusing creature to nail down though!
Please don't be upset by this text wall, I just wanted to explain things the best I can ^_^
I'm not gonna try and encourage you to make changes to your character, clearly you are attached to him the way he is, and I apologize if any of this has upset you in any way, it was never my intention to do so!
If you'd like some links to some resources I'd be happy to oblige as well ^_^

~Amy
:iconabandonedvoodoo:
hey, can i join? i have an alp character ([link]) and i was wondering if i could join...is that ok?

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:iconalptarnkappe:
Why certainly, all are welcome! Fantastic, I'll be posting the picture up today! Sorry for the wait!
:iconabandonedvoodoo:
yay! thx! the wait's no prob :3

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